UNC and Duke

[Biggin]

ok??


you make it sound like Cal is the only person associated with Wesley.

Wesley is maybe the most powerful figure in the NBA, yet he works specifically with Cal?? ha, thats laughable

if you want to penalize everyone associated with Wesley, then youd have to basically shut the NBA and NCAA basketball down

[Biggin]

and yeah I know who he is

one question:
has he ever been penalized by ANYONE associated with the NCAA investigation committee?

EDIT-

you do know he has been associated with the Clinton's, Mike Jordan, Phil Knight, Tom Shiner right?

[pvfan]

ok??


you make it sound like Cal is the only person associated with Wesley.

Wesley is maybe the most powerful figure in the NBA, yet he works specifically with Cal?? ha, thats laughable

if you want to penalize everyone associated with Wesley, then youd have to basically shut the NBA and NCAA basketball down

You are way off on this one, Cal is in the same mold as Jim Calhoun.

[Biggin]

the point is nobody has anything on Calapari

with the vacated wins and such, you dont think if the NCAA really had something, they wouldnt slam Calapari down?

with Dajuan Wagner:
he hired his dad to be involed with the memphis program. how many other schools do that? tons. it happens all the time.

Derrick Rose:
before he got to Memphis, someone took the SAT for him and he used it to get into school. is that Cal's doing? no one has ever proved that, there is no evidence to support that

Marcus Camby took money from an agent, Calapari was not involved in that, there was never anything linking Camby taking money to Cal

[Biggin]

theres no doubt wesley has tons of clout in the NBA and with players, but to penalize Cal for associating with him when basically the whole NBA is associated with Wesley is not really fair to him, is it?

[pvfan]

the point is nobody has anything on Calapari

with the vacated wins and such, you dont think if the NCAA really had something, they wouldnt slam Calapari down?

with Dajuan Wagner:
he hired his dad to be involed with the memphis program. how many other schools do that? tons. it happens all the time.

Derrick Rose:
before he got to Memphis, someone took the SAT for him and he used it to get into school. is that Cal's doing? no one has ever proved that, there is no evidence to support that

Marcus Camby took money from an agent, Calapari was not involved in that, there was never anything linking Camby taking money to Cal

Seriously, all I can do is laugh.

[yankeebaseball]

you really think allen houstons dad was tn first choice of coach?

please, thats the one thing that bothers me about sports. there is so much under the table things, so many things you could sit and pick apart about any ncaa coach. with the atmosphere in the sports world, its tough to tell who you are dealing with, even outside of Cal, Im not saying he is a saint and he hasnt done something questionable or even wrong.
I just dont think you can show me a coach who has done something like he has been said to do, or did, something comparable or even things worse.

[Biggin]

you really think allen houstons dad was tn first choice of coach?

please, thats the one thing that bothers me about sports. there is so much under the table things, so many things you could sit and pick apart about any ncaa coach. with the atmosphere in the sports world, its tough to tell who you are dealing with, even outside of Cal, Im not saying he is a saint and he hasnt done something questionable or even wrong.
I just dont think you can show me a coach who has done something like he has been said to do, or did, something comparable or even things worse.

thats a great point, and people overlook it because they enjoy taking down a coach.

this kind of crap happens everywhere, and to assume it doesnt is as silly as me assuming Cal has been perfectly innocent.

Lemme ask you something:
when Tee Martin took money in college, do you think Fulmer was immediately involved? Do you hold Fulmer as responsible for that like you do Calapari?

[pvfan]

UT is shady, UK is shady, UCONN is shady, USC is shady, etc. To say it happens everywhere is wrong, I don't like Coach K or Duke at all but you don't hear about this. Same can be said for Gary Williams at Maryland. It's a dirty game and has caused me to lose some of my interest in NCAA Athletics as I have aged.

[yankeebaseball]

You do realize what they punished John Wall for is the exact same thing the kid for Duke did dont you? He was Wall's teamate. How is UK shady? Explain that to me, thats hilarious. I know the Billy G years and Tubby run had just limitless talent and blue chip players on the roster. Was there ever any questions while Pitino was there? While Joe B Hall was there? Eddie Sutton, yeah, he was a douche when he was OK State and had his issues there. Again, I suggest you look into what happened while he was at UK.

And whats shady? Kids who have "handlers" when they are 13? What do you do, avoid those players, you think the kids who play for Duke, UNC, UCONN, Texas, UCLA, Alabama, Maryland, Rhode Island (yeah, Harrick and Lamar Odom). If you really believe that none of the schools have accepted kids who havent had something questionable come up? Then, you just have a distorted reality of things. Especially with college basketball and AAU. Whats shady, mistreatment of kids like Bob Knight? Whats shady the kids at Michigan taking money, from outside sources? Whats shady sweeping under the rug of things players do and get tangled in the law. No program is free, no program is clean, I refuse to believe that coaches and programs can control what a kid does with outside influences. I am not even just defending Cal, but corruption is not limited to a few. Like I said, he isnt a saint, he is prob even guilty of some of the allegations. But I would venture to say more are guilty than innocent. Its a business. Plain and simple.